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raptor667 03-20-2008 12:41 PM

cracking collection of snakes you got there. Good pix too :) :) :)

Thom 03-20-2008 01:10 PM

Ok now that we are on the subject of shedding again...... Hawns eyes have been cloudy for about 4 days now and she has been a bit on the skitish side, so I know she is getting ready but how long does it usually take before she will actually shed? I cant wait to see how bright and brillant her color is going to get after she sheds. By the way she sure hasnt lost her appetite though. When she ate on Tues it was one of the biggest rats I have ever seen but she gobbled it down and seemed to look at me like " ok dad I ate my dinner now wheres dessert? lol
When I got her I thought she was eatting every other week. I found out yesterday that she was actually only eating about once every third or fourth week. The people my sister in law got her from said if they fed her anymore often then that, that it wasnt good for her.
I now feed her once a week and she has no prob at all eating dead prey now.
Also I was wondering.... ok this will show my ignorence....
Do snakes grow and then shed the skin or is it when they shed that they grow?
I have had Hwan for going on 2 months now and she is the exact same length she was when I got her. She hasnt shed since I got her but she has gotten bigger around and gained about 5 pounds.

tmmpin 03-20-2008 01:30 PM

I don't know either. I would think they grow and stretch their skin out and that is the reason for the shed. I do know they tend to shed more if something isn't right, like mites.
Probably like a pair of jeans, when they start becoming faded and stained, a few holes in the legs, its time to get a new pair.

Thom 03-20-2008 03:50 PM

If its the case that she isnt shedding cuz she is healkthy then I have one helll of a healthy snake. lol
I was looking at her eyes today and they dont look cloudy at all but he hasnt shed yet either. Her disposition today is really good too. I was cleaning her "Condo" a little bit ago and she cmae right up to me and was wanting to climb on my artm and just seemed to want some overall attention. So Im guessing the mood before was cuz she had just eaten. I just cant wait till she sheds again.

ricks0626 03-20-2008 10:08 PM

my burm sometimes takes up to a week to shed after her eyes clear up. Good luck

Roy 03-21-2008 01:00 AM

Yeah, mine also take a week or more after the cloudy eyes before they shed. During winter they hardly shed at all when they are in they're semi-hibernation stage, but they hardly grow during that time.

Thom 03-21-2008 03:19 AM

Thanks everyone :D

dwg1211 03-30-2008 09:14 PM

just a couple of more pics of Saffron... :roll: 8)

tmmpin 03-30-2008 09:21 PM

Nice to see the snake getting its work out! :lol:

raptor667 03-31-2008 02:20 AM

Your supposed to have a spotter when your using free weights...I don't think Saffron

Cracking pix as always.

massaf 03-31-2008 05:43 AM

this is wisey when i first got her in her small cage!

and after 4 months here she is again....

dont laugh!!! i thought she was a ball python till 2 days ago!!!

Roy 03-31-2008 09:16 AM

She's a bewdy mate! Ball Python or not, she's great. :wink:

massaf 03-31-2008 11:12 AM

:D thanks!!! she is Great ... funny... and looney too!! :lol: although i must admit that i didnt understand the word bewdy... (translation please).. trust me, i did search for it on!...

the funny story about mixing her type is because when my guy called me and asked me if i apreciate a snake as a gift for my 30th birthday... i automatically agreed... then he started trying to describe the snakes infront of him for me to choose!!...
meanwhile i browsed the net... and have actually listened to Gary's advise on his section of getting the right snake... called my guy and screamed BALL PYTHON!!! get me a BALL PYTHON... this is the one for beginners!!!...

so here i am with a "Ball Python" at home.... got bitten once infact... which made me a little bit scared of her.. leading me to go to the pet-store and ask the man there to let me hold his snakes, and teach me how to pick her up, and overcome my fear..

and i found one just like wisey... and discovered that most of the time my guy seems that he doesnt really hear me when i speak to him!!!! :roll:
he got me a King Snake....

now she approachs me behind the glass when i talk to her... and let me caress her while she stand still on the bottom of her cage.. hopefully i will pick it up tonight....

raptor667 03-31-2008 11:48 AM

Nice looking snake :D From looking at the pictures and comparing them to others it looks like you have a rather pretty Prairie Kingsnake....only slightly different to a Royal

Bewdy = Beauty...Aussie

tmmpin 03-31-2008 07:24 PM

Good looking snake you got. A little bit away from the ball but it is still a good beginner snake to have. Just don't put another snake with it.

lovesnuffles 04-03-2008 11:56 PM

Wow n.n all your snakes are so photogenic! D=

Animals don't like to be photogenic for me, so IF I get to post a picture up here when I get my snake, it'd be lucky xD

I do have some pictures of a few venomous beauties I'd love to have though >.> ... Oh ... If only <.< .... They're not my pets ... But ... I feel I have to share the beauty of the dark side xD

The first one is a Copperhead. They're very pretty D= I wish to Goodness I could have one.

The second is a rattlesnake. He was so big <33

And the third one is a Cottonmouth ... playing hide n seek :D

Like I said, of course they aren't mine, but they are captive snakes >w< I had to take pictures. I fell in love. Even though the rattlesnake tried to eat through the glass to get at me D=

dwg1211 04-04-2008 07:46 PM

here are a couple of new ones of Saffron.. :

Roy 04-05-2008 09:28 AM

Great close ups Doug. 8)

tmmpin 04-05-2008 10:39 AM

I'm not a fan of "hot" snakes. I do like how some of them look but would never willingly let one in my house.

Great pictures of Saffron, what is he burrowing in?

dwg1211 04-05-2008 10:58 AM

I found some fake plants someone threw out on a jobsite... cleaned 'em up with some bleach solution and rinsed them off.. she seems to like it.. plus they're easy to clean... since switching to the new water dish and adding the tree limb/plants, it's looking pretty cool in her enclosure, yet still easy to maintain.. which is what I need to do today.. :roll:

lovesnuffles 04-05-2008 03:17 PM

Saffron is so photogenic n.n She should really think about pursuing a modeling career =O

dwg1211 04-05-2008 04:57 PM

shhhhhhhhhh!... she'll hear you! if her head gets any bigger, it won't fit through the door of her hide... :wink:... she's such a ham... if I didn't know better, I'd think she knows when I'm taking pictures.. she seems to 'strike a pose' on cue.. lol!

lovesnuffles 04-05-2008 08:13 PM

Lmao! xD Oh, she deserves it xD

And maybe she does o.o Maybe she's just a diva =O

Roy 04-05-2008 11:50 PM

I think that I'll look around for some artificial terrain. Since the climate down here is getting colder, I have removed their "swimming pool" and the enclosure seems to expose them a bit.

MainStick 04-07-2008 09:11 PM

I always thought that Capret Pythons loved hanging out in the open? Compared to their very shy Royal Cousins.

Still considering the idea of fake plants both makes an enclosure look more pleasing to both owner and enhabitant.

tmmpin 04-07-2008 10:02 PM

I had some fake vines with my redtail when he was still little, found out not to put little snakes in with plants bigger then them. He wrapped himself into it and I couldn't pull him out. I had to wait for him to come out for a meal. As soon as that happened I pulled the vines out.

dwg1211 04-07-2008 11:44 PM

saffron likes to get into the vines on the ground (sorta like ivy)... hard to get her out if she gets more than a couple of feet...

massaf 04-08-2008 05:45 AM

Ouuu La Laa dwg1211!!
Comme elle est belle!!!! (how beautiful she is)

Roy 04-08-2008 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by MainStick
I always thought that Capret Pythons loved hanging out in the open? Compared to their very shy Royal Cousins.

Still considering the idea of fake plants both makes an enclosure look more pleasing to both owner and enhabitant.

My Ruby loves to hide. I don't know why, but she loves to curl up in a small place for days, however Serge is social, he is always happy to greet you when you get home. So I guess it's ruby that will appreciate the fake foliage.

dwg1211 04-08-2008 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by massaf
Ouuu La Laa dwg1211!!
Comme elle est belle!!!! (how beautiful she is)

thank you! 8)

lovesnuffles 04-08-2008 01:42 PM

I want a terrarium like tmmpin's for whitey D=

tmmpin 04-09-2008 10:06 AM

That one I got lucky with, a friend of mine had it and decided it was too big. She sold it to me dirt cheap.
To build something like that probably cost around 300 dollars.

I built a snake rack over the weekend, I will try to post some pictures of it up as soon as I get time to take them.
Also hopefully will be posting some pictures of the Snake show in Indy this coming weekend.

lovesnuffles 04-09-2008 01:39 PM

Well, I've got people who would be able to build that for way cheaper. Maybe even as a birthday or Christmas present ...... Hmmm ....

But I can't get it until after college anyway when I move out >w<

Hmmm ... Snake show ... That's very interesting O.o What's it like? Or, well, I can imagine it'd be like a Chicken Show with a lot less noise and a lot less mess .... >.> I used to take Agriscience D= Leave me be! I like chickens ;.;

tmmpin 04-09-2008 10:10 PM

One that size, all the wood and everything adds up fast. The plexi-glass isn't cheap either.
The rack I just got done building cost me around 80 dollars so far. I still got to add the flexwatt heat tape to it and paint it. Some latches on the front so the tubs can't slide out. When it is all said and done it should run roughly 120 bucks.
With the price of wood and screws the price goes up fast.

Thom 04-10-2008 02:56 AM

I think just about everyone has seen the pics of Hawn's "condo".
It took me a little over a month to build and it cost me roughly 350.00 in materials. I dont really have it totally done yet and probably wont for anothe month or so because the doc told me I had to quit using the arm for awhile but when its all done I would say the cost to buy mine would be about $2500.00. Now the build time would normally be about 3 days but give me a break its tough to work with one arm tied behind your back!. ok ok ok maybe not tied behind my back but close! lol

Roy 04-10-2008 08:20 AM

I look forward to seeing those pix of the snake show Tmmpin.

tmmpin 04-10-2008 10:16 AM

I hope I don't forget my camera again, the last two I went to I meant to take pictures. I would lose my head if it wasn't attached.

dwg1211 04-10-2008 09:42 PM

I do HVAC for a living.. we have a sheet metal shop... you all just gave me a good idea for building a future enclosure.. I could make a giant box out of 24 guage sheet metal.. I could make all of the walls and floor at work and assemble everything at home.. with something like that, I could always break it back down and put it back together to move it or whatever.. I could rivet hinges for a plexiglass front... it would be moisture proof, retain heat, look great, and, above all, be escape proof... she never really tries, but just in case.. :wink: it wouldn't cost me much at all.. my boss can sell me about 3-4 sheets of 4'x8' metal, and I can use the break and the pittsburg machine to form all of the locks and joints.. like a giant piece of duct. 8)

lovesnuffles 04-11-2008 02:03 AM

That's actually a pretty good idea O.o

I'd like to construct something like a small jungle gym or hamster cage kind of thing ...

And like I said before, I could get someone to build it for me for Christmas or my birthday. You just don't know the connections I have D=

Annnnnd ... My step-dad works part-time in construction, so the wood would be no problem ;o Just have to get the glass :D

tmmpin 04-11-2008 10:09 AM

My only concern of the sheet metal cage would be heating. Metal seems to transfer heat real well. I would think it might end of with hot spots sort of like a heat rock.
I don't know a lot about metal but that is just what I am thinking. I would think that everything else would be alright though, metal walls and roof.

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