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Greg Nel 10-03-2011 07:47 AM

Unexpected aggression
 
I need advice urgently. Yesterday i put my male and female red-tails into their new tank. Its huge. 6 feet long and 4 feet deep and wide. These two have shared a different tank for around a month and nothing has occurred between them that appeared remotely aggressive. I thought it would be ideal for mating purposes. The female had just shed and was looking good. Within 5 minutes the female grabbed the male and they had a wrestling match in the water before seperating. I immediately removed the male and put him back in his old tank. The only injury i saw was a small scratch on the males head.

What could have caused this? Could it have been the new tank? I am concerned to put them back together.

lovesnuffles 10-03-2011 11:05 AM

Are you 100% sure they're male and female? Boas are rarely cannabalistic even with same sexes, but the occasional "fight" can break out among males. Could also be that she confused it with feeding time. Perhaps he had some rat blood on him? Or do you feed them in tanks separate from their own?

Greg Nel 10-03-2011 01:17 PM

I honestly can not say 100% for sure that they are male and female. The "new" snake was the one I bought as female and the guy promised she had been properly sexed. Neither of them had been near rat blood and this was the first time any snake had been in this new tank.
Castro has never been sexed properly and i have just accepted he is a male as i could feel spurs.
They are fed apart and in a seperate feeding box.
They also shared a tank with no incidents for over a month up to me moving them into this new tank with a view to them mating and her staying there alone.
She is due a feed though. Maybe she was hungry after shedding and confussed the new tank with the feeding box.
Do i feed her and try again. They are similar size and age. (about 1.6 meters and 2 plus years old)

lovesnuffles 10-03-2011 06:48 PM

Boas shouldn't be bred until 3 years old at the earliest and that's only for large, robust females. Females should be at least five feet long, preferably longer. So she may not be ready for him just yet and that's why they aren't breeding, but it's very possible she was hungry and confused him with food and the new tank for her feed box.

Greg Nel 10-04-2011 10:45 AM

Thanks i never knew that. I just watched her size as she is around 5 feet. Well that rules out breeding until late next year. Maybe abscence will make her heart grow fonder and more friendly next time.

lovesnuffles 10-04-2011 06:10 PM

Haha, maybe so. I don't think you'll have to wait until late next year ... Perhaps May or June would be good if she's already around five feet. I'd shoot for that. Just feed her up real nice and healthy, just don't overfeed her. Remember that any problem with her health will make her not have as many babies, if any at all.

Greg Nel 10-05-2011 12:29 PM

Snuffles remembering that George W. Bush ran your country for much longer than the rest of the world thought possible and caused the seasons to be the wrong way round. Yes since he turned that book upside down "reading" to the kids we have summer while you have winter and vice versa. Do the boas mate in winter to give birth in summer, which would make sense, or does it not matter when they mate?

DennyS 10-07-2011 12:38 AM

I am a member of the "Never house two snakes together" club! I have seen two many dead animals because of it. I just this year lost my Corn Island Boa male... He was a great snake but much smaller than his girl friend!!

lovesnuffles 10-07-2011 03:06 AM

Oooh, Denny, you had a Corn Island? Well .... since you've got no male for that female, why don't you just send her over to me? :) I mean ... she's useless to you now, right? I think you want to give her to me ;)

Greg, I don't think it matters in captivity. They don't really have "seasons" .... While some snakes still have the instincts to go off feed during winter and breeding seasons, I don't think the same is true for boas ... Like I said, they don't really "hibernate"

DennyS 10-08-2011 04:35 PM

Why(?), you don't have a male for her?? She doesn't like girls...bites Liz and my daughter in a minute...likes me...

lovesnuffles 10-08-2011 05:41 PM

No, but I know where I could get a male for her!! And she'd like me :) All snakes like me! Except for Psycho Seiko .... And that retic that the guy I got Brandy from has ....

NASAAN101 11-05-2011 04:24 AM

Denny,
That's wild, she like me!!! She came out of her traveling tub and just licked me!!! not so much a strike at me or a hiss!!!
Nikki

DennyS 11-09-2011 08:12 PM

Yeah Right!
 
LOL....I guess if you tasted just right she would have nailed you! And if you remember...I took her out and handed her to you. I am the only one that can open the rack and put their hand in..same with the reverse stripe!!

NASAAN101 11-10-2011 09:05 PM

Denny,
Ok!

Guys,
Reverse stripe girl, is one of Denny's snake Lucky's half-sister, If I'm not mistaken!!! But both she and Corn Island girls are very cool!
Nikki


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