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Old 09-21-2011, 02:31 AM
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I went to buy a pinkie rat I think it was a few weeks ago for my boa. To my surprise that the store I was buying from (man they had 12 ft albino burmese I wanted....) ans was told that pinkie rats wer enot good for boas. The reason was that the pinkies were still feeding on milk and that the boas couldn't digest this.

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Old 09-21-2011, 06:24 AM
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Lol, if there is one thing you should know it's that you can never trust the advice given to you from pet stores. Mostly chain pet stores, but even reptile specialty shop workers can be pretty dense.
Pinkies are fine for snakes, their diet doesn't matter. You just need to be sure you are getting the right size rodent. I assume you have a baby boa if it's taking pinkies?
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:30 AM
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Dodo is absolutely right. Beware of trusting of pet stores as their advice (except the highly specialised ones) is questionable to say the least. I have even been told not to feed my boa anything larger than its own head! This is laughable. If one considers his reasoning there would be no surviving wild new-borns as their staple diet is pinkie rodents. Just for interest, if you had followed his advice what did he suggest as an alternative food?
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:34 PM
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That's what I was afraid of. Th eirony here is this isn't a chain store. I mean they had full sized snakes everywhere. But perhaps they were not specialized?

I'm feeding hopper mice so she's (or he) is a bit bigger now. I've heard that rats are better to feed than mice but then again I hear alot of conflicting stories. I was going to switch over to rats.
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:42 AM
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The only difference in nutritional value of rats and mice is that rats and their babies are bigger. The better nutritional value depends on the size of your boa itself. As his size grows mice, even fully grown, will not be the size of the food he needs. In this regard keeping a supply of rats might be better. The alternative is feeding more than one mouse or rat at a feed. This is not a serious problem but my experience is that when I did this out of necessity my boa grabbed the one (pre-frozen) rat "killed" it and then left it to go after the other (pre-frozen) in case it "escaped". The lesson I learnt is that if you have to do multiple feeds do them one prey item at a time and check that each is properly ingested and down the snake's throat before giving the next one.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:22 PM
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Right now I'm feeding Lucy two hoppers at a time, in the same way. I will unthaw both; let her eat the one and wait a few minutes; then give her the other one. I just keep the second one covered so it stays warm. I will wait till she's moving around and looking for the second one and she has been fine that way for a long time. Hoppers from the place I get them from vary in size; so I try to find two small/middle size ones and she's been fine. She's been on somewhat of a shedding schedule, so she's getting enough food.
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Thanks! I realize as he (she) gets bigger that will need a bigger prey. I'm not concerned for this. I guess I'll keep the hoppers going until I go up to adult mouse and then transfer over to rat I suppose.

Her girth is a bit bigger than the knuckle of my middle finger (no guys, I'm not flipping you off! )
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:24 AM
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At that size, you are really looking at small hoppers (probably just one for now) or two pinkies. You don't want to feed her anything bigger than the largest part of her body (her middle).
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Hoppers are perfect for your size boa. Castro is nearly 1.6 meters and wont turn down a meal of any size. I would however clean the store out if i tried hoppers though. Your schedule of progression to bigger prey sounds fine.
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